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The EPC rating of B is referred to actually in two programs. Other
               programs, they use energy efficient criteria that are for the residential
               mortgage book, which are comparable with an EPC rating of B. But
               the most interesting case in my view is the Norwegian green bond
               frameworks in our analysis, because the Norwegian green bond
               frameworks allow for the inclusion of buildings within C label, when
               these EPC labels become available. Now Norway is actually not part of   Session I
               the EU, so you could say the taxonomy should technically only apply to
               EU countries, but the European Technical Expert Group also says that
               the alternative schemes for countries outside the EU that actually prove
               to apply eligibility criteria that are comparable with the taxonomy, then
               they should also be eligible.


                 Now in the case of Norway, an EPC label of C is probably as strong
 And for time purposes, I would like to zoom in just on one of the sub-  as an EPC label of B in Europe. An additional point to highlight is that
 categories of the real estate component, namely the acquisition of buildings.   the Technical Expert Group also stretches, and that there are substantial
 Now it is the Technical Expert Group's idea to build in the future absolute   differences between the EPC ratings in one country from the criteria for
 thresholds for energy performance. These thresholds should always have a   the EPC ratings in another country. And that is also why this threshold is
 minimum ambition to target the top 15% most efficient buildings of the total   subject to further review, after a report is published by the DG Energy in
 building stock. But for now, the Technical Expert Group is proposing some   this autumn.
 transitional thresholds. And these transitional thresholds are related to the energy
 performance levels, also briefly discussed in the previous presentation by Luca.   Then moving to the 30 percent energy improvements, not all the green
               bond framework criteria refer to renovations, but some of them that do
 Now the idea is that in the case of an acquisition of an existing building,   refer to renovations, indeed also make reference to the 30 percent energy
 the building should have an EPC(Energy Performance Certificate) label of   improvement requirement. But they don't provide for the alternative of
 at least B. If the building doesn't have an EPC label of B at least, it needs to   an EPC rating of B.
 be refurbished within three years to show at least 30 percent improvement
 in energy performance, or otherwise after the refurbishment reach an   So all in all, if you already make a brief analysis of the existing green
 EPC rating of B.  Now if you look at the current covered bond frameworks   bond frameworks, then you see that they are actually already quite well
 and the green frameworks covering the green covered bonds outstanding,   aligned with the criteria of the Technical Expert Group, and probably
 then you actually see that half of them already make reference to that 15   issuers only need to make a few amendments to the green bond
 percent ambition. Some of them may make reference to that 15 percent   framework drafting to be assured that their framework is aligned with
 ambition only with reference to the commercial real estate assets, but   these criteria.
 not so much to the residential assets. Others make no reference to the
 15 percent ambition at all, but that doesn't necessarily mean that their
 selection of buildings isn't in that 15 percent.




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