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» Moderator  |  Henny Sender  with Simon.  Now what the government tries to do, as they are very
 Back to you Jerry, a question from me and a question from the   subtle, maybe some of you are also familiar with Chinese culture, is to
 audience. You know both developed countries and emerging markets   have a pilot project, as they tend to do so when they are not familiar
 have problems with something that you've both referred to, including   with the subject. For the property price tool, they are so subtle that
 titles. And I lived in Japan during the housing crisis, I don't know if   they have the initiative called, “One city, One policy”. The overarching
 Kobayashi-san is still here from Japan Housing Finance, but one of   is determined by the top, by the central bank, PBOC. But when the
 the issues was that titles were not clear in Japan. So, for you, how clear   banking regulator, the central bank decides, for instance, the LTV cannot
 is the data about titles and property rights in China? And a question   go over 80 percent, each city needs to decide for the first loan of which
 from the audience is, are house prices in China sustainable? What are   the LTV cannot go beyond 60 percent. And for the second loan, it has
 the implications of this for the development of the Chinese mortgage   to be cash purchase. It varies city by city. So, they have this subtle way
 market?       to overcome the property, the pricing issue, but again it's an issue varies   Session II
               from places to place. This has drawn lots of people's attention.

 » Panelist  |  Jerry Fang
 Okay, thanks. So, I think the first question is more related with laws,   » Moderator  |  Henny Sender
 the legal infrastructure. Although it's still a communist market, they   Thank you. Before I'm going to ask you a question from the floor, I'm
 learned a lot from other markets. So in terms of the property rights, the   going to turn to this side and ask you both on the regulatory policies,
 contract laws are similar to those of other countries. Of course, it's a   incentives tax policies, all of which matters greatly. Can you tell us which
 massive market, sizable territory, so in terms of mortgage registration, it   countries can be role models giving the right incentives for affordable
 takes time. But other than that, I think from a rating agent's perspective,   housing, without causing bubbles? And can you also tell us about
 the enforceability, the foreclosure process, though it takes a bit longer   international regulation, regulation like BIS that applies across countries?
 time than other developed markets, in terms of the title, the right, we   Whenever I chair infrastructure panels, people always point out to me
 don't see particular, material differences from the other markets. Also,   that under Basel III, infrastructure is kind of toxic, right? I'll ask you
 when we rate a transaction, we have a lengthy on-site meeting with the   both to answer that, then I'm going to turn to you for the question from
 originator. So, we do not just look at the numbers, but also ask their   the audience.
 practices. Given the feedback from the transaction legal counsel or our
 observation on the data and our interviews with the local originator,
 there's no particular issue that's different from other markets, in terms of   » Panelist  |  Simon Walley
 title transfer or other legal issues.  Okay, I’ll talk about incentives, and maybe a bit about subsidies. In
               our experiences, the subsidies, if done badly, can destroy markets, and
 The second one is about the property price trend. Obviously this is   even destroy governments. The classic example is probably Hungary,
 a very important issue, not just to all of us. The Chinese government is   which saw rapid growth particularly as it was embarking on its journey
 very focused on this as well. They understand the speculation, the asset   Post-Soviet era, and subsidized every aspect of the housing market;
 bubble, which could create unnecessary or excessive lending, also hurts   whether it's developers, capital markets' products, or the mortgages,
 the affordability, and this will eventually lead to social unrest and affect   every interest group had a subsidy. It mushrooms and balloons, and it
 their political authority. That echoes to the previous topic you discussed   kind of ran out of control, almost to the extent that the government was




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