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» Moderator  |  Henny Sender                                                              with Simon.  Now what the government tries to do, as they are very
               Back to you Jerry, a question from me and a question from the                          subtle, maybe some of you are also familiar with Chinese culture, is to
            audience. You know both developed countries and emerging markets                          have a pilot project, as they tend to do so when they are not familiar
            have problems with something that you've both referred to, including                      with the subject. For the property price tool, they are so subtle that
            titles. And I lived in Japan during the housing crisis, I don't know if                   they have the initiative called, “One city, One policy”. The overarching
            Kobayashi-san is still here from Japan Housing Finance, but one of                        is determined by the top, by the central bank, PBOC. But when the
            the issues was that titles were not clear in Japan. So, for you, how clear                banking regulator, the central bank decides, for instance, the LTV cannot
            is the data about titles and property rights in China? And a question                     go over 80 percent, each city needs to decide for the first loan of which
            from the audience is, are house prices in China sustainable? What are                     the LTV cannot go beyond 60 percent. And for the second loan, it has
            the implications of this for the development of the Chinese mortgage                      to be cash purchase. It varies city by city. So, they have this subtle way
            market?                                                                                   to overcome the property, the pricing issue, but again it's an issue varies   Session II
                                                                                                      from places to place. This has drawn lots of people's attention.

            » Panelist  |  Jerry Fang
               Okay, thanks. So, I think the first question is more related with laws,                » Moderator  |  Henny Sender
            the legal infrastructure. Although it's still a communist market, they                      Thank you. Before I'm going to ask you a question from the floor, I'm
            learned a lot from other markets. So in terms of the property rights, the                 going to turn to this side and ask you both on the regulatory policies,
            contract laws are similar to those of other countries. Of course, it's a                  incentives tax policies, all of which matters greatly. Can you tell us which
            massive market, sizable territory, so in terms of mortgage registration, it               countries can be role models giving the right incentives for affordable
            takes time. But other than that, I think from a rating agent's perspective,               housing, without causing bubbles? And can you also tell us about
            the enforceability, the foreclosure process, though it takes a bit longer                 international regulation, regulation like BIS that applies across countries?
            time than other developed markets, in terms of the title, the right, we                   Whenever I chair infrastructure panels, people always point out to me
            don't see particular, material differences from the other markets. Also,                  that under Basel III, infrastructure is kind of toxic, right? I'll ask you
            when we rate a transaction, we have a lengthy on-site meeting with the                    both to answer that, then I'm going to turn to you for the question from
            originator. So, we do not just look at the numbers, but also ask their                    the audience.
            practices. Given the feedback from the transaction legal counsel or our
            observation on the data and our interviews with the local originator,
            there's no particular issue that's different from other markets, in terms of              » Panelist  |  Simon Walley
            title transfer or other legal issues.                                                       Okay, I’ll talk about incentives, and maybe a bit about subsidies. In
                                                                                                      our experiences, the subsidies, if done badly, can destroy markets, and
               The second one is about the property price trend. Obviously this is                    even destroy governments. The classic example is probably Hungary,
            a very important issue, not just to all of us. The Chinese government is                  which saw rapid growth particularly as it was embarking on its journey
            very focused on this as well. They understand the speculation, the asset                  Post-Soviet era, and subsidized every aspect of the housing market;
            bubble, which could create unnecessary or excessive lending, also hurts                   whether it's developers, capital markets' products, or the mortgages,
            the affordability, and this will eventually lead to social unrest and affect              every interest group had a subsidy. It mushrooms and balloons, and it
            their political authority. That echoes to the previous topic you discussed                kind of ran out of control, almost to the extent that the government was




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